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		<title>By: poetry</title>
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		<dc:creator>poetry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 06:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure is nice to hear some friendly voices.</description>
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		<title>By: Monacu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monacu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:40:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the estimable Towler is quite right -- it&#039;s Bagni di Lucca, rendered in the  overwrought landscape style of German Romanticism, much in vogue among Anglo-American painters in the early-to-mid 19th century (see the work of J.M. W. Turner, Frederick Church, Albert Bierstadt, Thomas Cole etc) Despite the French name, Louis Parez was active as a painter and popular illustrator mostly in Britain, ca 1820-1850.

Bagni itself was also in vogue in this same period, and would have been an ideal setting for that &quot;emotional&quot; tree in the foreground. Finally, there are the curve of the bridge and the proportionate relationship between it and the river&#039;s width, both near-perfect matches with the central Bagni di Lucca bridge and the Lima River.

Bravo Towler!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the estimable Towler is quite right &#8212; it&#8217;s Bagni di Lucca, rendered in the  overwrought landscape style of German Romanticism, much in vogue among Anglo-American painters in the early-to-mid 19th century (see the work of J.M. W. Turner, Frederick Church, Albert Bierstadt, Thomas Cole etc) Despite the French name, Louis Parez was active as a painter and popular illustrator mostly in Britain, ca 1820-1850.</p>
<p>Bagni itself was also in vogue in this same period, and would have been an ideal setting for that &#8220;emotional&#8221; tree in the foreground. Finally, there are the curve of the bridge and the proportionate relationship between it and the river&#8217;s width, both near-perfect matches with the central Bagni di Lucca bridge and the Lima River.</p>
<p>Bravo Towler!</p>
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		<title>By: Towler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Towler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 23:19:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;div class=&quot;smallcaptionleft&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge_fabbriche1.jpg&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge_fabbriche1-250x166.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;bridge_fabbriche1&quot; width=&quot;250&quot; height=&quot;166&quot; class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-4895&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;It&#039;s definitely not Fabbriche - that&#039;s arched on top whereas this is more or less flat. And I&#039;m pretty sure you wouldn&#039;t get fashionable ladies in pretty coloured dresses bathing up there in 1834 - everyone was too busy dying of cholera.

I would have thought that any go-ahead romantic painter at that time would head for Bagni di Lucca, which might make this Ponte a Serraglio. There&#039;s an engraving in Evangeline Whipple&#039;s old book &quot;A Famous Corner of Tuscany&quot; which looks a bit like this, with the path coming down to a little beach on the bank around that point. The buildings are a bit stylized in both but vaguely recognizable.

&lt;div class=&quot;smallcaptionleft&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge11.jpg&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge11-250x166.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;bridge11&quot; width=&quot;250&quot; height=&quot;166&quot; class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-4892&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;smallcaptionleft&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge21.jpg&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;img src=&quot;http://www.giornaledibarganews.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/bridge21-250x166.jpg&quot; alt=&quot;&quot; title=&quot;bridge21&quot; width=&quot;250&quot; height=&quot;166&quot; class=&quot;alignnone size-medium wp-image-4893&quot; /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;Here are the only modern pictures I can find. Look for example at the two little arches low down to the right of the bridge in your picture and in my second one. They&#039;re sort of in the wrong place, but maybe they built a new bridge next to the old one? I&#039;m in England now, unlike all my history of Bagni di Lucca books apart from Ms. Whipple&#039;s, so I can&#039;t verify this. Anyone like to blow my theory apart?
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Anyway, just a thought.

EDIT; If you leave out the changeable human-constructed features in the painting - compare the angle and contours of the ridgeline above the bridge in the painting and in my bridge2.jpg. These, and the steeply upward-sloping feature in the forest above and to the right of the bridge, look pretty much the same in both.</description>
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<p>It&#8217;s definitely not Fabbriche &#8211; that&#8217;s arched on top whereas this is more or less flat. And I&#8217;m pretty sure you wouldn&#8217;t get fashionable ladies in pretty coloured dresses bathing up there in 1834 &#8211; everyone was too busy dying of cholera.</p>
<p>I would have thought that any go-ahead romantic painter at that time would head for Bagni di Lucca, which might make this Ponte a Serraglio. There&#8217;s an engraving in Evangeline Whipple&#8217;s old book &#8220;A Famous Corner of Tuscany&#8221; which looks a bit like this, with the path coming down to a little beach on the bank around that point. The buildings are a bit stylized in both but vaguely recognizable.</p>
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<p>Here are the only modern pictures I can find. Look for example at the two little arches low down to the right of the bridge in your picture and in my second one. They&#8217;re sort of in the wrong place, but maybe they built a new bridge next to the old one? I&#8217;m in England now, unlike all my history of Bagni di Lucca books apart from Ms. Whipple&#8217;s, so I can&#8217;t verify this. Anyone like to blow my theory apart?</p>
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<p>Anyway, just a thought.</p>
<p>EDIT; If you leave out the changeable human-constructed features in the painting &#8211; compare the angle and contours of the ridgeline above the bridge in the painting and in my bridge2.jpg. These, and the steeply upward-sloping feature in the forest above and to the right of the bridge, look pretty much the same in both.</p>
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